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[23:17] <noel> ok i created the channel
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[23:18] <harlan_s> made it
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[23:19] <anastasia_m> This is strange. I haven't used IRC in years.
[23:20] <noel> haha same, i had to look up how to register a channel
[23:21] <harlan_s> feels appropriately underground for what we're doing
[23:22] <noel> speaking of which - the forum is up
[23:23] <noel> basic structure. three boards.
[23:24] <noel> Somnia for the city stuff. Resonance for trying to share dreams. Lucidity for techniques.
[23:25] <harlan_s> this is really happening isn't it
[23:26] <anastasia_m> It's really happening.
[23:27] <noel> i still can't believe it. i keep looking at the sketch you sent and thinking i must have seen it somewhere before
[23:28] <noel> but i know i haven't
[23:29] <anastasia_m> That's exactly the right response. Hold onto that skepticism. We need it.
[23:30] <harlan_s> we need the believers too
[23:31] <anastasia_m> We need both. That's why this works.
[23:32] <noel> what do we call ourselves?
[23:33] <anastasia_m> The Somnians? The Dreamers?
[23:34] <harlan_s> the ammonites
[23:35] <harlan_s> because it started with the statue. because we're spiraling into something new.
[23:36] <noel> i like it
[23:37] <anastasia_m> The Ammonites. Alright.
[23:38] <harlan_s> fitting that we're named after fossils
[23:39] <harlan_s> something that was alive millions of years ago, preserved in stone
[23:40] <anastasia_m> Or something that will be preserved. We don't know yet what we're creating.
[23:41] <noel> that's... kind of ominous
[23:42] <anastasia_m> Sorry. Occupational hazard of studying consciousness.
[23:43] <harlan_s> i think it's beautiful. we're making something that could outlast us
[23:44] <noel> hopefully in a good way
[23:45] * harlan_s nods
[23:46] <anastasia_m> We should set some ground rules for the forum.
[23:47] <anastasia_m> I don't want it to become another place for wish fulfillment and fantasy.
[23:48] <anastasia_m> If we're going to understand what's actually happening, we need rigor.
[23:49] <harlan_s> but also openness. people need to feel safe sharing their experiences
[23:50] <harlan_s> even the ones that sound crazy
[23:51] <noel> especially the ones that sound crazy
[23:52] <noel> that's kind of the whole point
[23:53] <anastasia_m> Fair enough. Rigorous openness. Skeptical wonder.
[23:54] <harlan_s> i like that. skeptical wonder.
[23:55] <noel> should we invite dreamweaver_94? they mentioned the white city in that thread
[23:56] <anastasia_m> Yes. And night_wanderer from California.
[23:57] <anastasia_m> Anyone who has independently described the same features.
[23:58] <harlan_s> the more of us there are, the clearer it gets
[23:59] <noel> what do you mean?
[00:00] <harlan_s> i've noticed it at my parties. when multiple people who've been there talk about it together
[00:01] <harlan_s> the dreams get more vivid. more stable. like we're... reinforcing it somehow
[00:02] <anastasia_m> That's an interesting hypothesis. We should design experiments to test it.
[00:03] <noel> you two are going to make a great team
[00:04] <noel> the artist and the scientist
[00:05] <harlan_s> and the engineer
[00:06] <noel> heh. i'm just a network consultant
[00:07] <anastasia_m> Who just built us a network. That counts.
[00:08] <noel> :)
[00:09] <noel> alright, i should get some sleep. big day tomorrow.
[00:10] <harlan_s> going to try to reach the city tonight?
[00:11] <noel> obviously
[00:12] <anastasia_m> Remember to document everything when you wake up.
[00:13] <noel> will do. goodnight, ammonites.
[00:14] <harlan_s> goodnight, noel.
[00:15] <anastasia_m> Sweet dreams.
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[00:17] <harlan_s> do you think this is going to work?
[00:18] <anastasia_m> I don't know.
[00:19] <anastasia_m> But I think we're going to find out something important either way.
[00:20] <harlan_s> that's good enough for me
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