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The Films of Zielinski

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Noel
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This is going to be a different kind of thread. Not about our dreams, but about something I found in the waking world.

Has anyone heard of Janusz Zielinski?

He was a Polish-American filmmaker who made surrealist/experimental films in the 1970s and early 80s. Most of his work is pretty obscure - you can find a few things on VHS if you dig, but he never had mainstream success.

I tracked down three of his films after someone mentioned him in an old dream forum thread from 2001. I've now watched all of them multiple times.

The city is in his films.

"The Sleeper's Map" (1973)

A 45-minute experimental film, mostly black and white with occasional color sequences. The narrative (such as it is) follows a woman who falls asleep and explores a dream city.

The city in the film is our city. White buildings on a mountainside. The spiral fountain. The library-cathedral. There's even a brief shot of what looks like the statue - a figure emerging from a shell.

"Passages" (1977)

Darker, more abstract. Much of it takes place in underground corridors - tunnels that shift and change. The architecture is impossible, Escher-like. A man is searching for something, or fleeing from something.

Near the end, he emerges from the tunnels into... the central plaza. You only see it for a few seconds, but it's unmistakable.

"The Amber Hours" (1981)

His most "normal" film - almost has a plot. A woman receives a package containing a strange amber sphere. When she looks into it, she sees another world. She becomes obsessed with entering that world.

The world in the amber is, again, our city. But shown in more detail than the other films. Extended sequences of the market district, the coastal areas, the smaller plaza up the mountain that dreamweaver mentioned.

What This Means

Zielinski was dreaming of the city in the 1970s. At least.

This predates all of us. This predates the internet. This is independent confirmation that the city has been accessible to dreamers for decades, maybe longer.

I'm trying to find out more about Zielinski himself. He died in 1998, but he has surviving family. If anyone has connections to the experimental film community, please reach out.

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Harlan_S
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I need to see these films. Where did you find them?

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Noel
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"The Amber Hours" is on VHS through a small distributor. The other two I had to track down through collector forums. I can make copies if there's interest.

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Anastasia_M
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This is significant. Tumanov's work is from the 1960s-70s as well. There may have been an earlier generation of researchers and artists who accessed the city, before the internet made it possible for dreamers to find each other easily.

Noel, please do share copies. And any information you can find about Zielinski himself.

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I watched "The Amber Hours" last night (found a copy on eBay). This is unreal. The market district sequences are exactly what I see in my dreams. Not similar - exactly the same.

The woman in the film also talks to the inhabitants. They respond to her. She has whole conversations. That never happens to me.

Maybe skilled dreamers can be more "present"?

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I've been doing research on Zielinski. He was born in Poland, emigrated to the US in the 1950s. Studied film at UCLA. Was involved in the psychedelic counterculture in San Francisco. Made a few commercial projects but mostly did his own experimental work.

Here's what's interesting: in a 1979 interview, he said his films were "documents of a real place, not fantasies." He refused to elaborate, and the interviewer clearly thought he was being pretentious. But what if he meant it literally?

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I found the same interview. He also said: "Dreams are the correspondence course. Film is the postcards I send back."

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There's a shot in "Passages" that really got to me. The man is in the tunnels and he turns a corner and there's this figure - just a silhouette, watching him. Tall, thin, wrong proportions. He runs.

I've seen that figure. In the tunnels. I thought it was just my dream creating something scary. But Zielinski saw it too.

What's down there?