ARCHIVE https://www.somniaforum.net/thread/julia-s-zielinski-materials Sep 15, 2006

Julia's Zielinski Materials

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Noel
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Julia stopped by today with some materials from her Zielinski research. I need to document what she brought because it may change everything we thought we knew about Ethel.

Who Julia Is

Julia Warren is a documentary filmmaker who's been researching Janusz Zielinski for almost a decade. She found his films in the 80s, became obsessed, tracked down everyone who knew him. She's working on a documentary about his life and work.

She found the Somniaforum through our thread about his films. After lurking for months, she came to the opening party. Today she brought what she's gathered.

The Archives

Box after box. Film reels, photographs, interview transcripts, notebooks, letters.

Some highlights:

  • More films: There are at least two more Zielinski films we haven't seen. Julia has the only known copies. One is entirely set in what appears to be Ethel's coastal district. The other focuses on the tunnels.

  • Photographs: Zielinski kept a camera by his bed. When he woke from significant dreams, he'd immediately sketch what he'd seen. Julia has dozens of these sketches. The accuracy is remarkable - places we've all visited, rendered decades before we were born.

  • Interviews: Julia recorded conversations with Zielinski's collaborators. Several of them report similar dream experiences. One actress says she started dreaming of "the white city" after working on his films, and never stopped.

The Book

But the most important thing Julia found is a book. Unpublished, hand-bound, in Russian.

Anastasia's already started translating. It's by a researcher named Andrei Tumanov - the same Tumanov we've found fragmentary references to in early Soviet dream literature. This appears to be his complete manuscript.

Preliminary assessment: Tumanov and his team at a Soviet research institute conducted systematic exploration of shared dream realms in the 1960s and 70s. They found Ethel - they have another name for it, something Anastasia is still working on. They mapped it. They documented its inhabitants and culture.

And they went into the tunnels.

What's In The Tunnels

I'm not going to share everything here. Some of it is disturbing. Some of it we need to understand better before we can responsibly discuss it.

But I'll say this: Tumanov's team went deeper than any of us have. They found things. Chambers that don't exist until you believe in them. Entities that are not dream-people in any recognizable sense.

And they found something that spoke to them.

The manuscript ends abruptly in 1977. Tumanov and his entire research team disappeared that year. The institute was shut down. The records were destroyed - except for this one book, which somehow made its way through collector networks to Julia.

What This Means

We're not the first. The city has been there all along. People have been finding it, exploring it, documenting it. And something in the tunnels has been waiting.

We need to discuss this. Soon.

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Anastasia_M
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The translation is going slowly but the implications are significant. Tumanov's theoretical framework is more sophisticated than anything we've developed. He understood things about how persistent realms work that we're only beginning to grasp.

His warnings about the tunnels are explicit. I'll share more when I've finished the relevant sections.

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Harlan_S
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Julia's sketches... some of them are places I've been. Not similar - identical. Zielinski was drawing my dreams forty years before I had them.

What does that mean? Are we seeing his dreams, or was he seeing ours? Or is Ethel something that exists outside of time entirely?

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Charlotte_K
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I'm fascinated by the cultural documentation. Tumanov's team interviewed inhabitants systematically, much more thoroughly than I've been able to. If Anastasia can translate his ethnographic notes, we might finally understand the Church's function.

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Oscar_V
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Noel, I need to see what Tumanov wrote about the tunnels. I know you said some of it is disturbing, but I need to know what's down there.

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Noel
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Come talk to me and Anastasia tomorrow. We'll share what we've translated so far. But Oscar - his warnings are serious. Whatever they found down there destroyed them.

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Martin_L
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Something that spoke to them. That offered them wonders.

I've heard something in the tunnels too. I thought it was just dream noise. But it felt like it was trying to communicate.

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Anastasia_M
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Martin, I want you to document exactly what you heard. Every detail. We need to compare it to Tumanov's accounts.

And please - don't go back down there until we understand more.

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Martin_L
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I'll try. But the tunnels keep calling.

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Lily_W
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I'm having nightmares. Not about the tunnels - I've never been near them. But about something coming up. Something rising. It started after the party.

Is anyone else experiencing this?